Sonic LAB: Mackie Onyx 820i Firewire Mixer

Premium analogue plus 8 in 2 out audio      23/12/09

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Analogue 

Mackie's latest range of analog mixers come with integrated FireWire audio but  caused quite a stir when first announced - primarily because of the news that their drivers had bypassed the ProTools hardware copy proctection which up to then had only allowed signed, authorized M-Audio hardware to run the M-Powered version of Pro Tools.

But thats not the whole story by any means. The mixer itself is somewhere between the larger format Onyx series analog desks (which could be retrofitted with a FireWire card for audio) and the more familiar VLZ-3 smaller format desks. The iSeries comprises of the 820i1220i1620i and 1640i - we're looking at the 820i which  the baby of the range with a channel count of  eight: 2 mono, 3 stereo with 3 Onyx pres, and knobs instead of faders. The Onyx preamps are present in the first three channels - I can vouch for these, being both quiet and of good quality, plus a 3 band Perkins EQ - which on the face of it sounds like some classic UK designed vintage EQ - its close, but not quite, the guy who designed this type of EQ is a well respected engineer Cal Perkins who's design was modeled on the classic British EQ sound. Promising eh?Well yes, this EQ is a significant and welcome improvement over previous Mackie EQs, which frankly, I've never been that keen on.

Fire In the Belly

The desk has an 8 in, 2 out integrated FireWire audio interface ruuning at 24-bit (44.1, 48, 88.2 and 96kHz) with each of the input channels sending to their corresponding outputs. In addition, you can route AUX 1+2 to Firewire 5+6 and MIX output to FW 7+8.

A single stereo firewire return can be routed either to the monitor section or into channels 7+8 - note - the gain also works on the FW return for this channel, which is a nice touch.

The desk is well constructed, with a good selection if ins and outs for such a small mixer. The Firewire integration is a great addition - for no matter how clever the dedicated audio interface is with is mixing facilities, its pretty hard to beat a dedicated mixer, especially as far as ease of use and routing goes.
Right Tools For The Job
The 820i slipped right into my system with native support under OS X (10.4.11 up). There are also drivers for Windows XP SP2 up, Vista and Windows 7, so most of us can use it.
The additional Pro Tools M-Powered support - comes when you buy two additional things:
  1. Mackie Universal Driver ($49.99)
  2. A copy of Digidesign M-Powered ($299.95)

You will need to budget for this additional expense if you plan to use Pro Tools, but I can confirm that it does work - I installed it on my Mac Book Pro with no problems. However, wasn't able to really stress test it and compare the performance with a bona-fide M-Powered system.

 

Finally

While the Pro Tools integration is certainly a maginificent marketing tool and certainly if the thought of uniting the Mackie mixer and the Pro Tools hardware is your dream come true, then go crazy. But I think this is a bit of a red herring, that fact remans that what we have here is a good quality, integrated mixer and audio interface, following on Mackie's trusted and reliable reputation, with a set of premium extras - the preamps and EQ frinstance, add to that the audio interface and you have a winner.

 

The only downside I can see only having one stereo Firewire return, but if you want the full monty then you need the all singing and dancing 1640i ($2,199.99/£1,899). One problem I did encounter was that the FireWire connection was quite fernickity when it comes to getting the right lead, I found there were clocking issues until I found one that worked.

 

Pricing and Availability
 Available now at $649/ £599

$499.95 at MusiciansFriend.com

$499.95 at GuitarCenter.com

$499.95 at Music123.com

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6 Comments...  Post a comment    original story
tb2    Said...

i have considered the 1640i though my worry is just what you said about the firewire. i haven't owned a Mackie Firewire interface yet, and wonder just how stable the system is. what is the lead that caused you issues and what lead works for you?

31-Dec-09 12:33 AM


Nick B    Said...

the 1640i is a heavily featured machine - very nice, but sadly too big for my setup.

I think the first lead was a belkin 800-400, then I just put a 6-pin to 4-in with a little 400-800 adapter which worked better - but was cheaper - go figure

31-Dec-09 04:13 AM


Jon F    Said...

Fantastic review, I've always liked Mackie mixers in the past. Nick have you done a review on the Presonus Studiolive? I'd like to know the difference in it and the Mackie 1640i. Thanks from all tech-heads in Mississippi, U.S.A.

08-Jan-10 08:53 PM


Fretpick    Said...

So it doesn't work with L.E?

28-Jan-10 08:56 AM


Abe    Said...

Dude, this mixer rocks for the price. I was using an apogee duet, until i bought this desk. Now, i have NO use for it. I'm using LP8 & PT-MP and it works flawlessly on my Mac Book Pro 15in (2Ghz, 500Gb, 2G Ram). I have my FW hard-drives daisy chained to the extra FW port, and no problems. Didn't purchase a new FW cable. It comes with an adapter for FW800. Can record to all eight channels, simultaneously. Studio Live feels like a toy, IMO.

20-Mar-10 01:19 PM


marco    Said...

so.. are you saying that this mixer can record all the 8 channels independently?? im using logic pro and i want to record all separated.. can i do this with the 820i?? plase reply to my email mmota.agent.47@gmail.com im freaking out.. im doing search and more search about this onyx and i cant finf a place where peopple say clearlly that the 820i does multi record separetedly one each channel.. please help thanks..

16-Feb-11 08:42 AM


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