Wow - it's basically a not-broken Ableton Live. I like it!

20-Jul-12 11:12 AM

Wasn't C-Lsb's creator/notator based on patterns and so like a basis for live?

20-Jul-12 04:28 PM

Looks great, but how does it SOUND? Ableton sound terrible and is one reason I stay way from it? Does it sound at least as good as Logic (hopefully as good as Pro Tools)? If it does, you can have my money right now!

21-Jul-12 08:02 PM

Ableton Live sounds amazing.

22-Jul-12 11:55 AM

Ableton Live is a sequencer! It only sounds as good as your synths, you samples, and your talent.

22-Jul-12 03:07 PM

exactly. ableton live. lets see what bitwig brings to the table.

05-Aug-12 10:39 PM

I think people are saying that ableton's native effects are terrible. If you use third party stuff and don't auto warp everything then you don't get the "ableton" crap sound that so many people are stuck with

06-Aug-12 09:41 PM

bassbeats dont be ignorant! all DAWs sound the same! An audio signal is an audio signal and it sounds the same in every DAW... if you think i'm wrong test it!

If you sound design a bassline in your favorite vst it will sound exactly the same whether you play it Cubase, Logic, Ableton, Protools, etc... if you think i'm wrong you better start studing!

21-Aug-12 01:28 PM

Well, dont be ignorant yourself... An audio engine is always different from another audio engine. Try Mixing 30 tracks in ableton live, then try to mix the same 30 tracks in Reaper... and you'll hear big differences (stereo width, dynamic, phase...)

06-Sep-12 08:10 PM

"Looks great, but how does it SOUND? ...."

Uhhh I can't read such a shit. I'M working with many different DAWs and they Sound the same! The only thing is that you handle the Audio on different ways so you get different results based on the DAWs natural workflow. But if you compare the Audio from different DAWs with the same settings you'll get the same results - here is an example: http://tarekith.com/sound-quality-live-versus-logic/

09-Sep-12 03:11 PM

"Looks great, but how does it SOUND? ...."

Uhhh I can't read such a shit. I'M working with many different DAWs and they Sound the same! The only thing is that you handle the Audio on different ways so you get different results based on the DAWs natural workflow. But if you compare the Audio from different DAWs with the same settings you'll get the same results - here is an example: http://tarekith.com/sound-quality-live-versus-logic/

09-Sep-12 03:12 PM

Yeah, these guys are mostly correct. Pretty much all DAW's use the same audio technology. 16/24 bit PCM (depending on settings) with 32 bit floating point operations. The only real difference a DAW can make is the algorithm they use for dither. I really doubt you could ever really hear a discernible difference in that though.

17-Oct-12 10:31 AM

Yeah, these guys are mostly correct. Pretty much all DAW's use the same audio technology. 16/24 bit PCM (depending on settings) with 32 bit floating point operations. The only real difference a DAW can make is the algorithm they use for dither. I really doubt you could ever really hear a discernible difference in that though.

17-Oct-12 10:31 AM

I love Ableton Live but of course each DAW has its own "sound", this is a fact. Try this: listen to a bassdrum sample in your library, drag this sample in your live set. You'll hear what Live does to audio.. This is also what's great about it, it's its sound but you can create your own sound gear wise as well (converters etc) they will bypass your DAW audio engine. Peace

11-Nov-12 07:21 PM