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Podcast: Sonic TALK 348 - Diego Stocco, AIRA and Korg Odyssey
  20-Feb-14
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drip.feed    Said...

Why do so many pundits insist that new 'old' electronic instruments must provide new sounds?? Surely these old synths have passed into the realm of classic instruments. No-one demands justification for why old Stratocasters are still in demand or why guitarists continue to buy modern versions. A Strat hasn't produced a new sound in 50 years! No-one bemoans the high cost of classical or folk instruments that haven't changed in design for hundreds of years: it is just accepted. That's the way I view old synths and drum machines.

20-Feb-14 12:22 PM


Wildman    Said...

you will always have two camps. One camp that wants to use the classic sounds and one camp that wants something new and fresh. Both can co exist and thrive. People want different things and sometimes we dont understand that.

20-Feb-14 02:51 PM


kid_kozmoz    Said...

^Wildman: This is true, of course both camps can and do coexist--the problem is that asking "can this recreation of a classic instrument make new sounds?" is simply asking the wrong question. Diego seemed not to understand that. If new sounds are what you want, don't look at old gear (or recreations thereof) for them. The "KARP" Odyssey is a legacy product, not a boundary-pusher. My reaction was exactly the same as drip.feeds, fwiw.

Mark, on the other hand, talks like he should invest in a modular; that way he could ring-mod anything he wants!

20-Feb-14 07:21 PM


Gustavo    Said...

Hey Nick, what was the Odyssey video with George Duke?

I also think that the new Ody will be geared, as they said, to people looking for THAT sound they liked from those times, not for people looking to do something very new.

20-Feb-14 11:31 PM


Ian Page-Echols    Said...

I was really interested in the Odyseey reissue, so was looking everywhere for more information. I ran across a guy making circuit boards and cases for a DIY ARP 2600 mini sort of creature. Sounds like under $1500 if you DIY, or somewhere over $3000 if you have one built for you. New ARP 2600, even if I have to solder the thing myself is easily worth it compared to getting a fully built Odyssey for a similar price. If you look up TTSH, you'll find it. I read the currently 301 page thread on Muffwiggler in one sitting.

21-Feb-14 03:57 AM


GV    Said...

There has not ever been one re-release that was a 100% true to the original. What are the odds this new Odyssey is going to be a 1:1 replica? Maybe the MS-20 is the closest remake, but I don't get the impression they're selling like hot cakes? It's just a phase companies and the market is going through, it will pass and the remakes will eventually be worthless. Why? Because they're replicas.

21-Feb-14 05:18 AM


Nick B    Said...

It was from Inca Roads with Frank Zappa. which is from the album One Size Fits All

22-Feb-14 01:01 PM


Diego    Said...

Hi kid_kozmoz, the comment you're attributing to me is not accurate. I never mentioned "can this recreation of a classic instrument make new sounds?". I said that I would like to see Roland (and later in the video, other companies) creating something new (analog machines/synths), I didn't specifically say I would like the TR-8 to do something new. Check at 36'10".

22-Feb-14 01:39 PM


Z-tits    Said...

Brilliant Brilliant Brilliant to all speakers in your podcast. Thank You for addressing the macro issue- Basically - growth vs decay in the realm of Quality. Good Job!

22-Feb-14 06:34 PM


1974 v2.0    Said...

The new Odyssey need to recreated the original as closely as possible AND offer modern advances like MIDI, preset memory, effects, polyphony, etc... You it to be able to do all the lost vintage things AND all the things you WISHED it could do. And THIS will carry it forward for users to create something new.

25-Feb-14 03:29 PM


1974 v2.01    Said...

[Repost w/ Siri's typos corrected]

The new Odyssey needs to recreate the original as closely as possible AND offer modern advances like MIDI, preset memory, effects, polyphony, etc... You want it to be able to do all the lost vintage things you did back then AND all the things you WISHED it could do. And THIS will carry it forward for users to create something new.

25-Feb-14 03:42 PM


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