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AES08SF: Exclusive: Cakewalk Goes Hard - In a BIG Way
  03-Oct-08
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DJ Sean Sax    Said...

Thank you Apple! If you hadn't insisted that I buy a Mac in order to run Logic years ago, I would've never discovered Sonar. The Cakewalk team has been making strides in developement that other music software companies could only DREAM of! With this new V-Studio 700 system, a secret that many of us have kept to ourselves for some time now will finally be out: the best platform to make music on, bar NONE, is a PC based Cakewalk Sonar system. Well done folks!

03-Oct-08 09:37 AM


Nick B    Said...

It's interesting isnt it? Actually one thing that is becoming very possible is just turning your mac into a PC and running SONAR.

Looks to me like the Logic team are really falling behind in DAW development - with this and the PT 8 announced they are going to have to do something pretty impressive.

03-Oct-08 09:45 AM


Hidden Driveways    Said...

This is nice for some users, but personally the latency inherhent in USB 2.0 spoils it for me. They did a bang-up job on that mixer though. SEXY.

Had it been PCI or ExpressCard then I would have to rethink my plan to invest in a RME Hammerfall rig.

03-Oct-08 10:38 AM


GOD    Said...

Soft'n'small, more like

Actually, it is BIG.... too BIG and ugly

03-Oct-08 10:41 AM


Bernard    Said...

Nick in the video he said 1 ARX expansion per rack. If you add a second rack then you have two Fantom VS synths each with one ARX expansion slot to get to a total of two.

Thanks for sharing the news, looks great.

03-Oct-08 10:42 AM


FC    Said...

I don't need the synth or the I/O as I have all of that sorted.

If the controller was available on it's own I may well consider migrating back to Sonar as the whole system seems very well intergrated but until then, I'll stick with what I've got.

03-Oct-08 03:40 PM


Nick B    Said...

FC, I'm not certain of this, but the control element needs the IO to make the interface between it and 'puter. Not sure if one can just go controller only, at least not with this. But presumably it's only a short step to get a controller only version made?

03-Oct-08 03:50 PM


FC    Said...

Thanks for your reply Nick.

Yeah, it seems that the controller communicates with the rackmount via a proprietary protocol.

Perhaps the easiest option for Roland/Cakewalk would be to leave the controller hardware as it stands and develop something along the lines of a half-rack 'decoder' module just for the controller functions?

I'd guess that would appeal to those like me who already have half a dozen hardware synths and are happy with the audio I/O they have.

With a bit of luck they're already working on something like this...

One can hope!

03-Oct-08 05:03 PM


Loxan    Said...

emagic made logic control 6 years ago...what innovation are you talking about? since then all project studios use mackie control. this thing is far too ugly/big and is going to have worse fate than steinberg houston...

although it's true that logic 8 may has fallen behind the competition,apple chose partners with great reputation for the hardware integration ,such as apogee & euphonix. just an opinion...

04-Oct-08 06:37 AM


GOD    Said...

Damn str8

Euphonix has set the gold standard and if you are not going to release a product as sexy and for cheaper, then DON'T BOTHER

As I said, this thing is UGLY, as in ... looks like it was made 20 years ago by the Ruskies

04-Oct-08 07:07 AM


Nick B    Said...

Euphonix has set the gold standard?!?

What makes you say that? I'm not sure they've earned that accolade just yet. I have a feeling that USB2 might be a little more responsive than ethernet for control data.

Plus they arent PC compatible? Sure, they look quite nice.

I would agree about the Logic Control being old in the tooth for sure.

Loxan, you are right but there's always room for a new kid on the block and from what I understand, Sonar does have quite a large customer base, as do Roland

04-Oct-08 08:13 AM


Bernard    Said...

Leak or shelved preproduction idea (look at the rack unit) ?

http://www.dv247.com/assets/products/58161_l.jpg

400 series with VS synth and two srx expansions slots.

The 700 rack has been set out in the press release to have just 1 ARX expansion.

04-Oct-08 01:04 PM


Roderick    Said...

It does look sweet, at least for Sonar users like me. The last comment is interesting, when he says that in the future it will be other models (the number anyone?). The only thing that worries me is the USB 2.0 connection, mostly when we are only 6 months away from USB 3.0. Ugly? It looks perfect, with exactly so many knobs as needed.

04-Oct-08 02:03 PM


Jake    Said...

At least its USB2 to computer and not some proprietary R-BUS type thing. Remember the SI-24?

http://namm.harmony-central.com/SNAMM02/Content/Roland/PR/SI-24-small.jpg

05-Oct-08 12:10 PM


shekhar dhain    Said...

we're only six months away from usb 3???

how did you come to that conclusion?

20-Oct-08 02:29 PM


semee    Said...

you guys are all just full of yourselves. Try getting over your "vast" knowledge for one second and think. Nobody wants to read reviews with a bunch of chuckling third graders all fighting to sound the most educated. If you have never used the thing, how the hell can you even have an opinion.

22-Oct-08 12:27 PM


okan    Said...

sounds thinny, pretentious

17-Dec-08 05:23 PM


Andreas    Said...

Thats really great stuff,thank´s for the fantastical report, i like the idea of the V700 Combination.

For more Produktinformation in German Language you can look here:

http://www.buenasideas.de/archives/124

19-Dec-08 10:59 AM


Andreas    Said...

Thats really great stuff,thank´s for the fantastical report, i like the idea of the V700 Combination.

For more Produktinformation in German Language you can look here:

http://www.buenasideas.de/archives/124

19-Dec-08 11:00 AM


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