|Synth Site: Roland: XP-60: User reviews Add review|
|Average rating: 3.9 out of 5|
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|beta a hobbyist user from earth writes:|
excellent all around workstation - it can serve as the base for a whole studio. expandable, good sounds, good fx, etc.
PS it is the exact same thing as the xp80, except the xp80 has one more octive - THAT'S ALL
|Rating: 5 out of 5 posted Wednesday-May-10-2000 at 13:09|
|Minus20,000 a part-time user from USA writes:|
I bought this synth to use the sequencer as an alternative to computer sequencing and to enjoy some nice synth sounds with a decent controller-sold the computer and cubase. Well, I like the sounds, and the controller is useful, and the keyboard feels great. Sliders are cool if you want to edit a patch for storage and ok for real-time sweeps----sort of-----that is if your looking for a stepping sound. It makes stepping/ or zipper noize in a big way when used to control the internal sounds and especially with external sounds such as analogs! The sequencer is solid on timing and reliability, and feels tighter than cubase did. Also never crashes like my computer, and has some "advanced" editing features considering it's a hardware sequencer. The advertised 60,000 note capacity is a bit misleading since it can't record more than aprox. 40,000 notes if you tried. On mine, I tested it by recording a 16th note pattern (using the excellent arpeggio-ooh must mention that!)) for 600 measures and proceded to duplicate track one to two to three to four to fi.....what all out of memory, I thought it could record 60,000 notes? Not the case. I had all other midi info switched off besides the minimum note on/off, vel/gate, and all internal sounds and effects busses switched off too, but she ran out of head room early. Not sure what they mean by "notes" as it implies to me that they're referring to notes that you can use, i.e. actually hear!! And to hear your notes you need a few basic amounts of recording data. How presumptuous of me. All in all, the sequencer note capacity aside, I think the XP60 is the lesser of evils in the price range, but not a classic, never will be. 3 out of five tops.
|Rating: 3 out of 5 posted Friday-Jan-21-2000 at 18:03|
|T.Oliver a professional user from USA writes:|
Hi, Note: this is just an update to my previous review. What I'm referring to is the decay noise problem that is common to new Roland keyboard and module products. I have contacted Roland on this problem and they told me: "This problem is inherent of the machine you are using. The XP-60, 80, & JV-2080 all use 18-bit converters so they have a brighter and clearer sound thus exposing noise on the decay of notes in some patches. The JV-1080 and XP-50 use 16-bit converters and have a darker sound so you don't hear the noise." This is the explanation Roland gave but, I think it's just an excuse for inferior sounding converters on supposedly superior keyboards and modules. I then asked if Roland saw this decay noise issue as a problem and if so, were they currently working on a fix. Here's what I got: "We've contacted Japan on this subject but, we haven't heard a response yet." I asked what do they suggest I do in the mean time (I already told the tech I have a 1080 and didn't notice the problem there). Another quote folks: "Use your 1080 for intro parts and quieter passages." I tested another r XP-60 in another state and city (I was just on a business trip), same problem. Here are a few patches that can be auditioned which have a louder noise problem than most. PR-A 072 Fantasia JV, 084 Wave Bells, 086 Beauty Bells. PR-B 112 Alto Sax. Note: Be sure to have all the internal effects on and listen through quality headsets - preferably some place quiet. I think I should let everyone know that I am not a Roland basher and I have been a Roland and Boss user since 1989 (D-20). I guess I am more disappointed than anything. I use to look forward to new Roland products knowing that they would be the standards by which all others would be judged. I hope Roland doesn't incorporate these same "brighter & clearer 18-bit converters" into new products. For now I still use the XP-60 along with the JV-1080 for all of my synth sounds. I returned the E-MU Proteus 2000 for another JV-1080. I have plans to expand it with the newest cards. I hope this clears up any confusion. Tyrone Oliver
|Rating: 2 out of 5 posted Monday-May-31-1999 at 12:50|
|T.Oliver a professional user from USA writes:|
Price Paid: US $1550.00
Ease of Use: 8 I am using an XP-60 with ROM ver. 1.10. The presets sound pretty good (standard Roland sound set - 1080, 2080, XP-50 & 80). Editing the pathches is not too hard because of the excellent graphic display. The manual is very general and too "formal" - It reads like Airforce Tech Data (very dry). Roland should hire an american company to write a better manual, ala "XP-60 for Dummies" ect...
Features: 9 64 voice polyphony with standard keyboard action (nothing to brag on). Good effects, very easy to use. Excellent expansion capabilties. I have the Orchestral, Vintage synth, 60's & 70's, & Hip-Hop cards - love them all! Sequencer is pretty good but I use an Akai MPC2000 to sequence so I never bother it and it never bothers me. This is basically a 61 key ver. of the XP-80.
Expressiveness/Sounds: 1 Sounds are generally good for all types of music. Very responsive to aftertouch. Effects are good and very programmable. Now here's what's wrong with it. IT HAS A TERRIBLE DECAY NOISE PROBLEM THAT IS VERY AUDIBLE ON PATCHES WITH ALOT OF SUSTAIN. THIS IS AUGMENTED IF THE PATCH USES ONBOARD REVERB. I DIDN'T NOTICE THIS IN THE STORE BECAUSE MUSIC STORES ARE LOUD AND I WAS ALREADY FAMILIAR WITH THE SOUND SET FROM USING A JV-1080. I PRIMARILY MONITOR WITH HEADSETS (SONY MDR-7506) AND FOUND THIS TERRIBLE PROBLEM WHILE SEQUENCING A HARP SOLO. I INITIALLY THOUGHT IT WAS IN THE INTERNAL EFFECTS UNIT SO I CUT IT OFF AND THE DECAY NOISE IS STILL THERE. IT SOUNDS LIKE A CHEAP 8-BIT SOUND CARD - VERY FUZZY AND STATICY AND THE END OF NOTES WITH LONG SUSTAIN. I INVESTIGATED THIS PROBLEM BY TESTING ANOTHER XP-60 - SAME PROBLEM. I TESTED A JV-1080 AND NO PROBLEM - VERY CLEAN. I TESTED A JV-2080 AND THERE IS A DECAY NOISE PROBLEM, BUT NOT AS LOUD AS THE XP-60. THE XP-80 I CHECKED DID NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM - SOUNDED AS GOOD AS THE JV-1080. I CANNOT RECOMMEND THIS SYNTH TO ANYONE TO USE AS A PRO. SYNTH. BUT AT THE STREET PRICE OF $1,500, ITS COST IS CERTAINLY PRO. THIS NOISE PROBLEM HAS FORCED ME TO LOOK ELSEWHERE FOR SYNTH SOUNDS, SO INSTEAD OF BUYING A 1080 I GOT A PROTEUS 2000 WITH VERY GOOD AND CLEAN (NO DECAY NOISE) SOUNDS. I JUST USE THE XP-60 AS A CONTROLLER AND BACKING SOUNDS. IT'S A DAMN SHAME A KEYBOARD WITH SO MUCH POTENTIAL COULD FAIL IN AN AREA AS CRITICAL SOUND QUALITY. NOT RECOMMENDED, GET A JV-1080 OR PROTEUS 2000!
Reliability: 8 I think it will hold up. I do notice how newer Roland keyboards feel cheaper then say a D-50 or a D-20. Gotta cut costs somehow I guess. Too bad Roland decided to go with cheaper D/A converters on it's flagship Modual and Mid-priced workstations :(
Customer Support: 1 On my attempt to reach Roland to adress this problem I looked in the back of the manual and called 213-685-5141. The area code change to 323 - no problem... o.k. 323-685-5141.... "The number you have dailed is disconnected" It figuers, i'm sure no one at Roland will admit to this problem and probably just blow me off.
Overall Rating: 1 This would have been the workstation to end all workstations as far as price and features go. But the bottom line is this; how good does it sound. Most competing synth companies can't compare with Rolands sound set and features but with Shitty D/A converters your beautiful Roland sounds end up sounding like they were played though an 8-bit computer sound card. Everything was in the right place on this workstation except Roland dropped the ball and went with cheap D/A converters. Hint, Roland: YOU DON'T CUT CORNERS BY DEGRADING THE SOUND QUALITY, YOU DO IT BY CUTTING THE FEATURES. THIS SYNTH IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR THE PROFFESIONAL/STUDIO MUSICIAN.
Submitted by: T.Oliver <RawData501@Hotmail.Com>
|Rating: 1 out of 5 posted Wednesday-May-26-1999 at 16:53|
|D.J.T.O. a professional user from U.S.A. writes:|
I've just recently purchased the XP-60 for about $1600.00 US. It is ecxactly (I mean absolutly no difference) the same as the XP-80, excecpt the XP-60 has 61 keys. I have four expansion boards installed (orchestral, vintage synth, techno, and hip-hop). The factory presets are o.k., but the expansion boards make this synth. As for the sequencer, I can't tell you much about it because I use an MPC2000 to sequence. If you are "on the fence" about this synth and want more info, just check out the XP-80 reviews. Overall I give this synth a 5 out of 5 for value and expandability. Features like a huge backlit lcd display and 4 independant outputs also makes this synth stage friendly. And of course the sounds are first-rate Roland quality.
|Rating: 5 out of 5 posted Tuesday-Jan-05-1999 at 19:51|
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