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I paid $140.00 for my SY85 circa' Feb. 2006. The 61st key (high) is broken, and the floppy-drive is pushed inside the shell. The 8-track sequencer is linear, unlike chaining small sequences together; you can't change the time signature or tempo during a song. (unless manual tempo change) A "linear" sequencer requires scrolling up to the measures you're working on. Everytime you edit, quantitize etc.. it puts you back to the beginning of the song. The wheel shaves off a little time if you're driven, but over-all the sequencer can be somewhat slow and tedious. Also, the longer the song gets, the slower the commands are "completed!" If your song gets to be 80,90 or more measures long, it can take 5,10 or even 15 seconds of blinking "executing command!" I clinch my teeth hoping it doesn't crash, it hasn't yet. Patience is required for this board, but it's worth your time. The step mode is Yamaha's Dot-matrix breakdown of a measure. Each beat is divided into 8 spaces (32nd notes) the track buttons then become different note values. Oddly, there is no sixtupplet value in step-time mode. You have to write 32nd tripplets with 32nd trip-rests between them to write sixtupplets, although quanitizing them is allowed in real-time mode. The program change (in step mode) allows changing sounds on a track, eight times per beat! However, very fast or tight program changes reveil a slight audio glitch. The program change is a very handy feature, and once acquainted, it allows assigning literally any of the SY85's sounds anywhere, on any track. There is a similar audio glitch, between songs in the "Song Chain" mode. The 9th rhythm pattern track is only useful if sequencing drums first. Crash cymbals being caught sploil the fun with a bleak 30-notes of polyphony. Strangely, the piano patches are just "o.k.", but everything else sounds very impressive, best known for organic sounds; Big-Fat strings w/sizzling rosin, realistic choirs, Great brass, pipe organ, eclectic drum kits, etherial sounds, noises etc.. Rhodes patch "Roady", authentically duplicates overtones, and even that slight distortion you get in the lower ranges of a Rhodes! And while the Mellotron patch isn't perfect, If you play it imagining the idiosyncratic quirks of a real Mellotron, after getting drunk to old King Crimson records, you can delude yourself for fleeting moments. I've learned to blend tracks of Inca flutes, Co Orch (soft-brass & strings) and the "Tron" patch for a surprisingly good "In The Wake Of Poseidon" Mellotron wall. I've played a $1200.00 Yamaha Mo6, and still think my SY85's a better board. The Mo6,7 and 8 have thin, plasticy, cheap, toy-like keys and hardware, not quite as bad as a Casio. The MM6 is worse. The least of a new Yamaha workstation I would buy would be a Motif Xs6, $2,200.00 new. Ouch! Bottom line: If you see an SY85 for anywhere near what I paid for mine, Buy it, I'm glad I did.
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