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General:  Good laptop brands/models?


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Tribal.... Good laptop brands/models? (20-Feb-02  06:34AM )

- Since I picked up Ableton Live, it has become even more obvious that I need to upgrade my notebook. I am looking for a non -mac laptop, but I'm not sure which models are good, do they make athlon-based laptops?, I've heard DELL are good, If anyone could help that would be great.

Tribal

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hifichild.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (20-Feb-02  09:36AM )

- Dell suck ass. They're cheap and often use non-standard, modified parts. The Sony VAIOs are pretty nice, but seem to be more looks than function. Personally, I'd say get an IBM. They're very solid and reliable and their support is excellent. Compaq aren't bad too, but do avoid anything that looks flash (ie slimline, titanium case, etc) They're usually made for execs and other dillholes that just want to pose on airplanes.

hifichild

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ivan.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (20-Feb-02  12:04PM )

- I only have good experiences of IBM laptops (I haven't owned one, but my mother and two friends has them). They cost a bit more, but they are worth it.

Compaq is good too, depending on model.

ivan

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subhuman.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (20-Feb-02  12:56PM )

- I'd definitely rather have a DELL than a Compaq... But I agree IBM makes nice PC laptops. Really though take a look at Apple, I think portables are their strongest point as a company, and if you have a desktop PC, it could be nice to have an apple around (since there is sometimes other software released there).

But I'd probably get a Dell or IBM myself if buying a laptop.

subhuman

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Tribal.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (20-Feb-02  06:31PM )

- Thanks, guys. I have been thinking about a second hand powerbook. What's the difference between a new Ibook G3 500mhz, and an older G3 Powerbook 500mhz?, What would this be equivalent to in a PC 1Ghz?

Tribal

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Lava.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (20-Feb-02  07:25PM )

- I got a Dell. It's great.

Lava

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uvc.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (20-Feb-02  07:40PM )

- I just recently bought a laptop (Toshiba) and a friend of mine who works day in day out servicing laptops, advice was to go for something from either Toshiba, IBM, Sony and Compaq. All are reliable, with Toshiba and IBM his personal fav's. Stay away from Dell he said, not reliable.

uvc

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breakstyles.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (20-Feb-02  07:50PM )

- No lapotp advice from me, but i am extremely curious about Ableton's "live" software. Hows it work? does it do what it says on the tin? How does it compare to Acid in the looping department? Sorry to barrage you with these questions on your laptop post, but you are the first person who seems to actually own the software!

breakstyles

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hooptyheaven.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (20-Feb-02  08:52PM )

- Tribal:

The difference between the 500mhz ibook and the 500mhz Powerbook (Pismo) is that the pismo has 2 inches more screen real estate, an extra firewire port, and an audio in. The pismo can also take 1 GB of ram, as opposed to 640MB on the powerbook, has a faster system bus (100mhz as opposed to 66mhz). You can easily swap the pismo's main drive between a CD, DVD, CDrw, or Zip drive in it depending an what you need.

I personally think that the ibook's limited expandability make it pretty impractical for music. It's build quality seems a little flimsy too. Not the kind of thing I'd want to take on the road with me.

hooptyheaven

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SyNtHpLaYa.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (20-Feb-02  09:30PM )

- If you're looking to create a pro studio around the laptop, yes..id agree the Ibook isnt the place to be. I run Cubase, Reason, and VSTi's on my iBook 500 mhz (icebook)..It runs just great, and im probably going to add a USB-Midi/Audio hub thing to expand with hardware and do some audio. It easily handles everything i throw its way..when it comes to build quality, I think its a rugged little thing. Ive hauled it around in my backpack, and dropped it quite a bit. Still solid..the hard drive is even rubber mounted for extra shock protection..its MADE to go places...

SyNtHpLaYa

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xiombarg.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (20-Feb-02  10:31PM )

- I would personally recommend a Toshiba. You can get them straight from their website for dirt cheap. I've used different Toshiba laptops over the years and they are always reliable. PBs are nice and all, but too slow. You were asking if a 500mhz PB is as fast as a 1ghz PC. Kind of, but not really. The problem with this comparison is that what makes a PB faster is because it has a smaller pipeline set that streamlines info in particular ways, but not all types of info. The only area you can point directly where this speed affects performance is in 2d graphics, but not rendering. Besides you can get a new 600mhz PB for $2000, or you can get a new PC laptop 866 PIII for about $1200.

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xiombarg.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (21-Feb-02  01:18AM )

- Oh, and as far as G3s go...mmm, they are ok as long as you have a MINIMUM of 400mhz and don't plan on running OSX, otherwise the lag will drive you nuts. But the huge advantage that the old black PBs had is their swapable drives so that you had floppy, cd, or zip all at your disposal. With the Titanium its cd or nothing, kind of impractical for a lot of situations.

xiombarg

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infader.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (21-Feb-02  01:45AM )

- ive got a dell inspirion 8100 myself and find it to be the best laptop ive owned. For one thing its using the intel 815E chipset, instead of Via and SIS which many other companies use. Also dell uses the nvida geforce2 graphics card which ive found to be a much more compatible brand than products made by trident and the like.

Lastly Dell has a great insurence coverage which cost me $270 for 3 years and it covers any breakage, regardless of fault. Dropping it, spilling stuff etc, is all covered.

Really most any laptop should work fine in this day and age as long as your buying a fairly new model, but i just find Dell gives you the parts that are most regarded as being compatible with whatever accessories you wish to plug into it, such as usb midi and soundcards, firewire drives etc

infader

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Tribal.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (21-Feb-02  03:36AM )

- Breakstyles, I'd say Ableton is the most inspiring program I've used in ages. I've only had it a couple of days, but I can tell I'll never play live with another program again. Download the demo, it's worth it.

Hmmm, so G3's can't run OSX well?, that's a bummer, because a 600mhz G4 Powerbook costs about US$3200-3500, here in Aus. Out of an older powerbook, and a new Ibook, which would be better, because these are both in my price range.

As far as PC Laptops go, I've definately crossed out compaq, as that's what I'm using now, and they have horrible internal noise problems, and are not that reliable(I've found).

SynthPlaya, does your Ibook have firewire?

Tribal

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ivan.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (21-Feb-02  06:15AM )

- IMO, the biggest plus for the G3 Powerbooks is that they have screen doubling, so you can use an extra monitor with it. The Ibook only has screen doubling, which is fairly worthless IMO.

I'm using a 400MHz Lombard (same as the Pismo, minus Firewire and 66MHz system bus), and it works fine. I haven't used OS X on it yet, but it seems like 10.1.3 (or whatever the recent upgrade was) is a bit faster. I would give it a try if I were you, since it seems to depend a lot on people's expectations. But since there aren't that many OS X audio apps right now it might not be a problem.

If you can find a Pismo for a good price, then that would be a great buy. Don't know the prices in Oz though... The Ibook 500 is decent, but it depends on what you'll pay for it compared to a Pismo. Or, if you can hold out a while, there's rumours of revised TiBooks coming pretty soon, and therefore some older 400/500MHz machines might be available s/h. (BTW: the 500MHz is much preferable for audio over the 550, and even the 667 due to the cache size.)

ivan

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Lava.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (21-Feb-02  11:54AM )

- infader,

I have a Dell 8100 too. It rocks! Running it with an Echo Layla24 in a PCMCIA slot...

Lava

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rexmedia.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (21-Feb-02  12:22PM )

- I bought a Sony Vaio PCG-FX210 about 1 year ago and I've been really happy with it. It has the AMD Duron 800 in it, which I was a bit apprehensive about, but it out performs my HP P733 desktop. (By perception, I haven't done any real testing). The Sony Vaio has firewire built in, which is great. It loaded my MOTU828 drivers with no problem. I plan to test it out tonight coincidentally, so I'll do a follow-up post to let you know how it performs with the MOTU828 in real world use. I know Sony doesn't advertise the Vaio as much as Dell and other manufacturers do, but I'm running Windows 2000 Professional, 256MB RAM, using a DSL USB modem, a 80GB firewire Maxtor drive (external), and this baby works great. I'll give you some more info tonight after I do some recording. The price a year ago was $1500 with the 256MB RAM (upgrade), 10GB drive, 14.1" screen (I got used to it quick, even after using a 21" for years), firewire (standard), Ethernet (standard), 56k modem (standard), DVD/CD player standard)...the model number is PCG-FX210. The battery life sucks, but I use the AC all the time anyway.

Link: http://rexmedia.com

rexmedia

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Four30.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (21-Feb-02  02:40PM )

- No one seems to have mentioned anything about the Fujitsu Lifebooks, anyone have experience or knowledge to share about those? They're going for quite a cheap price for what you get around my area.

F30.

Four30

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SyNtHpLaYa.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (21-Feb-02  02:52PM )

- Yes, the new iBooks have a firewire port...

When it comes to G3's and OSX..

Yeah, its possible, but when running a G3 with OSX, you'll need a hefty amount of RAM. my iBook came with 128 initially, and OSX was a joke. it was so sluggish i couldnt believe apple seriously wanted to consider us using it. I quickly threw in a 256 ram stick in there, and now with 384, the improvement is noticable, but nowhere near as snappy as OS9. Ive talked to people who've maxed their iBooks out at 640 mb of ram, and they say it runs VERY nicely. Unfortunately, it'll cost you.

SyNtHpLaYa

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mbeaudet.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (21-Feb-02  03:32PM )

- RME has a section on their website where they discuss the merits of various laptops (CPU speed, bus speed, chipset, onboard video type, etc) which I think is quite interesting. I'd suggest reading it before you make a purchase.

mbeaudet

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hooptyheaven.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (21-Feb-02  08:35PM )

- Ivan...

Have the new TiBook rumors been posted anywhere?

hooptyheaven

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SyNtHpLaYa.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (22-Feb-02  02:11AM )

- hoopty..

if you're looking for mac rumours, you ought to try macosrumors.com and macrumors.com

More Apple rumors than you can shake a stick at

SyNtHpLaYa

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ivan.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (22-Feb-02  11:57AM )

- Basically, the rumours I've read is about faster processor and system bus for the TiBook - just a general upgrade, which sounds pretty reasonable.

I don't remember when they are supposed to be coming, but around summer perhaps?

ivan

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MasterB.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (22-Feb-02  01:52PM )

- Toshiba Terca 9000.

Compare the specs. IBM, DELL, Compaq can't touch it.

I recently acquired one, and it kicks.

MasterB

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Lava.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (23-Feb-02  05:04AM )

- Well, according to the tests at RME's website, my Dell 8100 was rated "Exceptional notebook, highest performance" for audio:

Click here

Lava

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CoolColJ.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (23-Feb-02  05:17AM )

- Are these laptops toally silent?

CoolColJ

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ivan.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (23-Feb-02  08:44AM )

- They usually have some kind of fan, and the HD will still sound, but laptops are usually a lot quieter than stationary computers. The fan doesn't come on that often with my Powerbook, but that depends on how CPU-intensive stuff you're doing.

ivan

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CoolColJ.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (23-Feb-02  03:43PM )

- Ok can I hook em up to external monitors and use a normal mouse?

Canm you remove the top LCD section and just leave the main section running with an external monitor? :)

CoolColJ

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Lava.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (23-Feb-02  05:33PM )

- Yes, you can hook them up to external monitors, and a mouse just plugs right in. Not sure about removing the top tho...

Lava

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CoolColJ.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (23-Feb-02  05:41PM )

- That's the thing the top will get in the way unless it lets you fold it down flat

CoolColJ

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JohnnyGrundles.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (23-Feb-02  06:37PM )

- Sorry to go off of topic alittle but I need a computer for recording and I was looking at the Sony Vaio Digital Studio desktops. Does anyone have any input on them?

JohnnyGrundles

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qantor.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (24-Feb-02  01:14AM )

- CCJ, I use my Laptop with an external monitor and use both screen. In Sonar, I put the audio mixer section on one screen, and the main sequencer window on the other. I don't know for Cubase and Logic, but I suppose they can do the same thing.

qantor

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hooptyheaven.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (24-Feb-02  06:56PM )

- Grundles,

I've heard mixed things about Sony Viao, but I can tell you from my own experience that Sony's customer service is abyssmal, even by the generally low standards of PC manufacturers.

hooptyheaven

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Tribal.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (24-Feb-02  07:35PM )

- I've been looking around at my options for a laptop, and I came across the idea of a rackmount PC, which will be portable enough for my needs, plus I can get the speed and power I need for a lot less cash My only dillema is a screen, is there any portable monitors out there?, I have seen one which is a keyboard and monitor that looks like a note book, and it slides out of a 2U rackspace, this would be perfect, but they're about $1000US, which is too expensive, any ideas?

Tribal

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Lava.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (24-Feb-02  07:52PM )

- Dude, just get the laptop.

Lava

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CoolColJ.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (24-Feb-02  09:57PM )

- Hey I found a PC case that operates with no fans! It uses heat exchangers to remove the heat from the CPU, Video card , Harddrives and Power supply!

currently only supports cpus 1 Gighertz or under, but a new version is coming soon that will go higher. Silence...

I read some reviews and it works as advertised!

=----------------------

one review

http://www.gerla.nl/calm/

another review

This is a silent pc group, right ? This group is all about making our pc as quiet as possible. So, can you please tell me why the only solution which truly makes your computer 0db silent (except for the hd) is so underrated ??? I'm talking about the "Calm System" (which I happen to own). Yes, the Calm System is not the best looking case, nor does it have lot's of features (although that is going to change by the end of this year), but the most important thing is, this is the only 0db silent solution on the market today. It is the only solution which let you run your computer WITHOUT any fan at all. I'm not affiliated in any way with C-System (the maker of the Calm System) and I'm not making this post for bragging. I'm just sick&tired of seeing people here ask question about how to make their CPU fan quiter, or PSU fan less offensive, like there is no alternative solution. There is a solution!. I think that Arthur Gerla (who was the first to review the Calm System) did a huge injustice to C-System with his review. After reading his review, to tell the truth, I was scared to order the Calm System, I was scared the case is not silent. I talked with C- System and they told me that they are so sure the case is silent, they will send me one without payment, and if I think the case is not silent, I don't have to pay. Well, I spent a whole week with the case before making a final decision, and to tell the truth I don't have a clue about what Arthur talked about when he said the case isn't silent (maybe he has a damaged one). The only time when the case is not 100% silent is at the first second of turning the computer on, there is a very slight "swish" sound, which only last half a second, after that, the case is 100% silent. I have a very quiet room and a very quiet neighborhood, even at 3:00am when everything around me is dead quiet, I still can't hear the case at all, even if I put my ear inside the case!!!. The only thing which still emits noise is the hd. I use a barracuda IV 40gb inside a silentDrive enclousre so I can't say I hear when idle under normal usage (ie if I don't put my ear right next to it). Overall, there is no possible way to tell if my computer is on or off unless you look at the green led. Do yourself a favour and Check it out,

www.cnssystem.com

Link: http://www.calmpc.com/product1_e.html#

CoolColJ

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Tribal.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (25-Feb-02  12:27AM )

- Fan noise doesn't bother me, it's power, and portability I'm after. The reason I'm thinking of a rackmount, is I can get really cheap(cheaper than wholesale) PC parts through a friend, who can also build it for me. He quoted me $800AUS for an AMD 1.7ghz, with 512M Ram and a 20gig 10,000rpm SCSI Hardrive. Which is damn cheap.

Tribal

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mbeaudet.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (25-Feb-02  12:38AM )

- Another option, besides rack-mount and laptop PCs is the option of "luggable" or "lunch box" units. They typically have a flat panel LCD (or plasma) display, a full compliment of PCI slots and everything else the digital musician needs. They tend to cost near the same as a laptop ($2000-$4000) but they're not so "dead-ended" in that you can replace the motherboard, add standard RAM, plug in a good sound card, etc.

I've been looking more and more at this option and think it's probably the way to go in the future.

Link: http://shop.store.yahoo.com/jinco/porpcsyspric.htm ...

mbeaudet

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kypski.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (25-Feb-02  01:31AM )

- Dude , you're getting a Dell

kypski

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Tribal.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (25-Feb-02  02:42AM )

- Like, no Dude I'm not getting a Dell. A decent Dell costs the same as a Powerbook in Aus, ie: too much

Tribal

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kypski.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (25-Feb-02  02:45AM )

- lol ..i agree. it was a joke. ever seen that dell commercial starring Steve?

"Dude, your'e getting a Dell"

:)

kypski

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Tribal.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (25-Feb-02  02:45AM )

- Oh yeah, thanks for the link, mbeaudit. Are these things available as empty cases?

Tribal

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ivan.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (25-Feb-02  08:47AM )

- CCJ - At least the Powerbooks can operate with the lid closed if an external monitor is hooked up. Of course you need to use some kind of external keyboard, but that's not a big problem IMO.

Otherwise, as far as Macs go, the Cube is fan-less (and is the best-looking computer ever, IMO), and the new Imac does have a fan, but is supposed to be very quiet, since the fan isn't running most of the time. Maybe that's different with CPU-hungry apps, but worth checking out.

ivan

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MasterB.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (25-Feb-02  09:52AM )

- How much do you want to spend?!

MasterB

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MasterB.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (25-Feb-02  11:47AM )

- These were pretty slick also...

Link: http://www.winbook.com/winbook_x1.html

MasterB

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Tribal.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (26-Feb-02  01:02AM )

- Less than a G4 Powerbook, but if it's worth it I will spend a little more.

Tribal

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MasterB.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (26-Feb-02  11:39AM )

- What's one worth where you are?

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Tribal.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (26-Feb-02  05:57PM )

- They start at US$2700, for the 550. I will probably have to get a laptop, as I cant find anyone in Aus that can supply a lunchbox.

Tribal

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CoolColJ.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (26-Feb-02  06:42PM )

- Tht's the problem with laptops - closed in - someone should make a line of upgradeable laptops :-/

CoolColJ

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Four30.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (27-Feb-02  04:06PM )

- I guess the thing with laptops is to make sure that what you get can do what you need, straight out the box. With so many decent firewire and USB soundcards around they're definately worth considering if you need digital audio that's also highly portable.

I'm this close to getting one just so I can have a portable and fully featured sequencer/software sampler package - all featuring beautiful 24 bit. The Sony Vaio is what I'm thinking of at the moment.

Four30

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Tribal.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (27-Feb-02  06:21PM )

- I've decided not to go with a powerbook, because they're too expensive, and I don't want to buy all my software again. Funnily enough, the Dell looks the best, with the 133mhz bus speed. I might wait and get one second hand.

Tribal

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Tribal.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (05-Mar-02  02:42AM )

- I just checked out one of the new Compaq's, that are gonna be released soon. Here's some of the specs:

P4 1.7GHZ!!!! 400MHZ Bus speed DDR RAM Compatible 64 mg DDR dedicated video memory Priced from US$ 2700. These look pretty good, I might hang out for a while before i buy my notebook.

Tribal

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CoolColJ.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (05-Mar-02  03:13AM )

- Looks good :)

CoolColJ

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MasterB.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (05-Mar-02  10:29AM )

- is that intel's 'quad-pumping' FSB, or a genuine 400MHZ FSB?

MasterB

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Tribal.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (05-Mar-02  05:24PM )

- Dunno, what's "quad pumping"?

Tribal

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derek.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (05-Mar-02  07:15PM )

- fwiw, i got an inspiron 8000 with hammerfall multiface and couldnt be happier. performance, low latency, stability, no complaints at all. heck, you can even play nice 3D games with this thing cause its got a nice geforce chip inside :-) add firewire, 2x USB, onboard sound with SPDIF, DVD/CDRW combo drive, a slot for a second harddrive, 1600x TFT display...awesome what you get for the money these days.

and the newer model 8100 is said to be again quite a bit faster, almost a luxury since the 8000 already is VERY fast, no noticable difference to a desktop IMO.

id be careful about the 8200 though since thats a P IV and those arent necessarily much faster than P IIIs, despite the better MHZ specs.

for what its worth...

derek

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MasterB.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (05-Mar-02  09:21PM )

- Intel had some 'smoke and mirror' thing going on with RDRAM, claiming it ran at 400mhz, when it fact it didn't... ...it was a 'quadpumping' 100mhz FSB...

MasterB

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loopy29.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (05-Mar-02  09:39PM )

- In another thread I wrote the question if I should go for a Compaq Presario 713ea (with inegrated graphics, similar to 710US I guess) or with a Dell 4100 with 128meg an ATI M6) This is one of my posts in hte thread:

"Okay, this is what I figure after a night's search . The difference between a compaq 713ea and Dell 4100 is only about 150€ (about 130$ I guess), which I can manage. The Dell would only have 128meg (instead of 256) ram and a cd-rw, without the DVD (which I would not use anyway), a slower processor (according to the benchmarks at sharky-extreme) nor the good looks (which is debatable) of the compaq.It does however feature a intel 830 chipset, with a 16 MB ATI Radeon graphics controller. It seems to be the better choice now. Anyone have experience with either one of these models?

Thans in advance "

so, how 'bout it?

loopy29

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Lava.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (06-Mar-02  12:01AM )

- Derek!!!

I have an 8100 - Do I have a slot for a second hard drive????? How do I know??

Lava

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CoolColJ.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (06-Mar-02  01:57AM )

- not enough ram I need 512megs!

CoolColJ

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Lava.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (06-Mar-02  01:59PM )

- Nevermind, I was looking all over the bottom of the thing unscrewing covers to try and find the extra hard-drive slot... never realizing it's just the media/floppy drive... sweet.

Anybody know how fast you can get laptop-sized IDE hard drives? 10,000rpm maybe??

CoolColJ, my Dell 8100 has 512 megs of RAM. But that's the max on it...

Lava

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CoolColJ.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (06-Mar-02  03:43PM )

- 10,000 rpm that's a pipe dream, unless its scsi. WHy though? It will be noisey as hell :)

CoolColJ

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elini01.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (06-Mar-02  03:56PM )

- i own a dell dimension 8100 model for my lap top :) i like it cause its black and pretty nice. it runs well and is a great lap top . dell is pretty good if you're looking for a nice computer. also if you want it in black too.. with a nice look..

elini01

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derek.... Re:Good laptop brands/models? (14-Mar-02  10:27PM )

- lava, fwiw, with the dells internal harddrive i can run more than 60 tracks without the slightest hiccup at 12 ms latency. havent tested the absolute maximum yet, but 60 tracks are working flawlessly all week and the performance meter is only at 20% yet (not that id trust that meter though LOL)

for a notebook harddrive, thats pretty fast if you ask me. would have been impressive even for a typical desktop HD not too long ago...scary how good notebooks have become...

i for one can live with a HD performance like that and would rather buy another drive in that performance class instead of some nuts-high-speed-thingy that makes this nice and quiet notebook beep at 11 khz all the time ;-)

best, derek

derek

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