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General:  The new u2 album is on sale!


29-Jan-05 (JohnNyC)
29-Jan-05 (0gre_jr.)
29-Jan-05 (nubilee)
29-Jan-05 (JohnNyC)
30-Jan-05 (DJ Don)
30-Jan-05 (JohnNyC)
30-Jan-05 (vokal)
30-Jan-05 (sauce)
30-Jan-05 (0gre_jr.)
31-Jan-05 (nubilee)
31-Jan-05 (zengomi)
31-Jan-05 (0gre_jr.)
31-Jan-05 (zengomi)
31-Jan-05 (zengomi)
31-Jan-05 (JohnNyC)
31-Jan-05 (0gre_jr.)
15-Feb-05 (shelfman)
16-Feb-05 (FIZMO100)
16-Feb-05 (Wild Jagd)
16-Feb-05 (FIZMO100)


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JohnNyC.... The new U2 album. (29-Jan-05  07:23PM )

- My Mom has been the biggest U2 fan since they started way back. So, she has every album including their comps. Anyway, I have always enjoyed their audio engineering and just the overall sound. Some of the best in my opinion. But, this newest album they just released was very raw sounding. BUT, I think it really feels the style they were going for. But hey what do I know =]

JohnNyC

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0gre_jr..... Re:The new U2 album. (29-Jan-05  10:53PM )

- Yeah it really hits the style of "Old Men trying to recapture their youth and a young demographic through weak music."

It hits it right on the nose.

0gre_jr.

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nubilee.... Re:The new U2 album. (29-Jan-05  10:54PM )

- Mid career crisis.

nubilee

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JohnNyC.... Re:The new U2 album. (29-Jan-05  11:38PM )

- Haha, yeah I got ya. But, putting the musical content aside. The actual mixing seems a bit raw compared to their other works.

JohnNyC

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DJ Don.... Re:The new U2 album. (30-Jan-05  11:20AM )

- "My Mom has been the biggest U2 fan since they started way back."

Man, do I feel old. I remember their first album like it was yesterday. Having said that, their latest album hasn't blown me away either. However, I still think they are one of the top 5 bands on the planet. I hope they come around to Buffalo when they tour. They usually do, and this time I'll be there!

Peace.

DJ Don

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JohnNyC.... Re:The new U2 album. (30-Jan-05  02:32PM )

- DJ Don, just check out www.U2.com. The only good thing about my Mom being such a big U2 fan is that when they go on tour, she buys front row tickets to their concert. So, free front row tickets to a concert isn't too shabby. Haha.

JohnNyC

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vokal.... Re:The new U2 album. (30-Jan-05  03:26PM )

- "Old Men trying to recapture their youth and a young demographic through weak music."

Kind of like skinny puppy now also, right ogre jr. ?

vokal

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sauce.... Re:The new U2 album. (30-Jan-05  04:28PM )

- I think the new Skinny Puppy album is sick. Also, U2 are definitely the biggest band that ever lived. I'm no big fan but I can't see them as tthe "trying to relive their glory days" types because, for them at least, the glory days never ended. Since 1980 they have consistantly sold out every show they play, and they'll probably continue being the biggest band in the world until today's high schoolers turn into soccer moms.

sauce


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0gre_jr..... Re:The new U2 album. (30-Jan-05  11:56PM )

- vokal - Yeah the new skinny puppy is a steaming pile. I know you wanted to insult me, but man does it suck. I got into industrial through skinny puppy and frontline assembly (well, long after skinny puppy had quit, i'm not old at all), and the new album hurts my insides. Not because they're trying something different...but because their execution sucks big balls.

I hate people who say "they were better in the old days," but I mean really....Skinny Puppy's new album went above and beyond sucking compared to earlier works (which weren't all gold, but there was much more good than bad). There is no atmosphere, their beats aren't even enjoyable, I mean...they failed at what they were even going for. But anyways...

Sauce - U2 is big, but that is because they are incredibly consistent...if you like one of their albums you'll probably like all of them. They may try different styles (sort of) but it's all lukewarm pop, and the world seems to love average. Not too exciting, but palatable enough to have in the car on the way to the soccer game.

0gre_jr.

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nubilee.... Re:The new U2 album. (31-Jan-05  12:42AM )

- mind the perpetual waste all the way, past too dark park -- el guapo..

nubilee

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zengomi.... Re:The new U2 album. (31-Jan-05  01:04AM )

- Usually I end up not caring about and even disparaging acts that crack the mass market big time. U2 has been an exception. They are too talented to ignore their talent, too sincere to dismiss as sellouts, and too zeitgeist defining to regard as being manufactured by the press.

Bono's style of delivery is hardly "lukewarm". He's a crooner, rather than a screamer, shouter, mumbler, etc. He has great pipes and superb timing and phrasing. He's a traditional lyricist--one who tries to communicate something explicitly. It would be a funny world in which he wasn't appreciated by more than an average number of people. And yet he has stayed with his mates rather strike out as solo artist.

The Edge, whom I regard as a writer first then guitarist, seems to have one the soundest egos in the business. From "Boy" it was clear that he is a craftsman of unique vision and exquisite taste and blessed with a Mozartian ear for beauty.

Adam and Larry strike me as the connective tissue that holds the whole thing together.

Not for everyone, obviously, but definitely for tons of folks around the world. It's global folk music.

Obviously, I greatly admire what they have accomplished musically, and "How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb" has deepened my appreciation. The song for Bono's father ("Sometimes You Can't Make It on Your Own") rates among their best. The production does seem sparser. Reminds me of some tracks on "Rattle and Hum".

I've long wondered what their being Irish contributes to their music. Anyone have a take on that?

zengomi


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0gre_jr..... Re:The new U2 album. (31-Jan-05  01:28AM )

- I have to say though zeng that Bono is incredibly uneven with lyrics, and I would say they're performers before they're artists.

The lyrics to vertigo are so crappy they should be enjoyed by any ashlee simpson fan out there. Not to say they're THAT bad...but let's be honest...they suck ass on that track. Anyways some of their earlier songs have social commentary (not too deep mind you, but better than vertigo no doubt) which is commendable and shows that the old folk "crooner" thinks now and again.

But again I have to say, they're not standouts in my opinion. They make some good songs, some bad, but all in the same vein ('cept for that track that Edge did the vocals on, woah doctor). After they stop making tracks and the baby boomers die off, they'll be forgotten.

0gre_jr.

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zengomi.... Re:The new U2 album. (31-Jan-05  03:18AM )

- If U2 has been making music in the same vein, give me an example of someone who hasn't.

Karaoke ensures that U2 will live on and on.

Seriously, though, I'd say U2 has one of the best shots at "immortality" after the Beatles. If you can offer some other candidates for posterity let's hear 'em.

zengomi


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zengomi.... Re:The new U2 album. (31-Jan-05  04:17AM )

- David Bowie comes to mind as one of the most stylistically adventuresome. Not sure if he meets your standards of relevancy, as he has a whimsical take on existence.

Compared with him, U2 might seem rather one dimensional, but they'd have an enormous amount of company.

zengomi


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JohnNyC.... Re:The new U2 album. (31-Jan-05  08:53AM )

- I with Zen on this. They are seriously some of the best I have ever seen when it comes to live (both on TV and in person.) And, he is far beyond a pop singer as he will never lip his songs at a show as they wanted him to do I think it was last years super bowl and he said that if he doesn't sing he won't play the show. So I absolutly respect that.

JohnNyC

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0gre_jr..... Re:The new U2 album. (31-Jan-05  04:18PM )

- Now I am biased on this angle but I would say that Nine Inch Nails make completely different albums each time around. When I was younger and the downward spiral came out, it was so revolutionary and each song was so different (in time sig, style, and instrumentation) that I honestly threw away my entire cd collection.

U2 is like the middle of music. Like I said they're pallettable to a wide audience, and that's their greatest strength. All it'll take is a little time after they give up (or wait until the fans die) and they'll fade like no one's business. They just don't stand out enough.

0gre_jr.

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shelfman.... Re:The new U2 album. (15-Feb-05  10:27AM )

- U2? I've always been into U2.

they've always been massive, and highly and rightly acclaimed for their live shows.

This new album is just, well...weak. Lyrically flowery with no soul. the sort of shite sixth formers write and then cringe with embarassment on reading them twenty years later.

Bonos voice, dunno, maybe he's not been well but its not there, just not cutting it. pale wishy washy dish water

musically, so-so. no balls, no gut wrenching ballads, nothing that does anything for me.

shame reaelly.

it cost me a tenner...coulda scored some rocks.

shelfman

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FIZMO100.... Re:The new U2 album. (16-Feb-05  05:29AM )

- How's this for a theory: it was revealed in the past few years that Lloyd's of London had been a bit dodgy in selling their super-premium investment packages, by selling high risk products to people who didn't really know the ins and outs of the setup. Basically, these high risk accounts were linked to the insurance sector.

Back in the 90s, the Piper Alpha oil platform goes nova, at a costof billions, and some of these investors lose a hell of a lot, as the insurance companies take a pasting.

The result? Mid 90s, a hell of a lot of bands who'd been in retirement suddenly take up their geetars again, and start recording albums etc.

I dunno, I thought it was an intersting idea. Whaddaya think?

Personally, to get back on topic, I've never been much of a U2 fan. I like listening to their stuff if it's on the radio or whatever, but I've never bought an album. Oasis dance all over them, especially in the vocal department. I prefer REM too.

FIZMO100

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Wild Jagd.... Re:The new U2 album. (16-Feb-05  05:33AM )

- "Back in the 90s..."

80s

Wild Jagd

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FIZMO100.... Re:The new U2 album. (16-Feb-05  09:38AM )

- Ooops. I remember it happening, I was born in 85, so I figured it was probably early 90s. I'll get me coat...

FIZMO100

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