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Average rating: 3.9 out of 5
adam a hobbyist user from USA writes:
I love mine. My opinion has changed. Beware. Red ones are being sold on ebay for mega-money. It used to be silver ones making more. Red ones are no rarer than silver. They look more toy like and have the same features. Avoid over-priced red. It's a recent con. It is not the same as red SH101 Rolands. Now, what a great little board this is. Indestructable and funky-looking. It is a proper midi controller. Honestly! One of the 3 must have mini Yamahas. The CS-01, any VSS sampler and the SHS-10. All great things. The SHS sounds are thin. The drum beats are pss stuff. Thats not the point. This can run any midi gear. It looks great on stage, not like Roland and Korg remotes which look ugly. The Yamaha looks cute and retro. Look out for badly listed examples on ebay. You can get a bargain. Well listed ones will make $150 and more. In England they can make nearly £200! Wow!

Rating: 5 out of 5 posted Tuesday-Aug-22-2006 at 10:21
Brian Old a professional user from UK writes:
Realy good fun. The sounds are naff. The midi possibilities make it an interesting proposition. It can be a proper controller. It looks quite good. Is it a toy or a serious instrument? Possibly a toy for a child with lots of money, gear and ambition. You really can strut about playing your Andromeda. I know, I've done it. I also got it to play 'Last Christmas', the demo, on my JD800. This board is a must for 80s tribute bands. when I tried to get one, people wanted loads of money. Up to £100. I paid £55 on an ebay deal. It had leaked batteries in it. Must have added a quid to the postage. The sounds are 2 op FM...like it or hate it. The pitch bend etc works over midi.

All-in all, an interesting little beast. It's much lighter than an ugly Korg or Yamaha remote. I can't think of anything quite like it in synthdom. They are fiercely collected. Remember to get one with the strap and battery cover. Both red and silver look good.

Rating: 5 out of 5 posted Sunday-Aug-06-2006 at 12:00
Pablo Madrid a part-time user from usa writes:
i'm in love with this keytar, especially ever since i saw david crowder use it in his last concert. I want one soooo incredibly bad and was wondering if any of yall want to sell one or let me know of a good pawn shop that will have one. I really need this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rating: 5 out of 5 posted Friday-Mar-03-2006 at 14:44
simon a hobbyist user from norwich uk writes:
nice to find more people who like keytars i used to play bass guitar but have a problem with my hands now (hand arm vibrating syndrome -not from playing guitar but the work i used to do!!) now im after one myself so i can get back to playing some rough dub reggae basslines i cant believe no-one has mentioned NO DOUBTS bass guitarist TONY KANAL used a keytar in HEY BABY does anyone know the exact model he used ??let me know [email protected]

simon

Rating: 4 out of 5 posted Wednesday-Jan-25-2006 at 11:31
Bert Vanderslagmulders a professional user from Netherlands writes:
Undestroyable? When working on batteries (fully charged) mine tends to stop working (no sound at all, while the numbers are still illuminated), and doesn't do anything on an adapter. It used to work fine and then I always carried it with me at school, making up annoying songs about people that walked by... And who can refuse "last christmas" as a demo?!

Rating: 2 out of 5 posted Sunday-Jan-08-2006 at 10:47
Saul a hobbyist user from Australia writes:
THE CHEAPEST EVER SHS-10: I Picked mine up from a second handshop for..........$2 Australian Dollars.

That's only $1.50US and probably 50 euro cents! It works perfectly. My poor Casio CTK-551 is not even getting a look at even though it's only a week old!

Rating: 5 out of 5 posted Friday-May-06-2005 at 03:46
kyle a hobbyist user from Canada writes:
I am sooooo happy.... The other day i picked up a red shs-10 for 20 bucks in perfect condition. It's sooo cool, i've already learned how to play the song "girls" by "beastie boys" using celesta voice #11. I feel so lucky and so happy and think that this instrument may lead my to success later on in life....I realize now that there must be a god!!! Yours truly, Dj Qwad Lazer

Rating: 5 out of 5 posted Sunday-Jan-23-2005 at 23:41
T-boi from Netherlands writes:
I bought my shs at queensday...a dutch holiday on which people sell all their old crappy stuff on the streets...I paid 7 euro's for it...MIDI OUT!!!... I went home and controlled some VST's like emagic's es-1, albino and moog modular with it. SHS10 THA BOMBA YA!!!!! Does anyone know what midi message the portamento and sustain buttons send out? %

Rating: 4 out of 5 posted Tuesday-May-11-2004 at 05:32
Paul a hobbyist user from United States writes:
I payed 70 dollars for mine. If you know nothing about music this is the thing for you. This is the thing for me. I don't know what these people are talking about but the voices rock. My favorites are the clarinet and umm...something...it's number 33. The drum beats and a fill button on the neck make this thing amazing for someone who can't play an instrument. It would also be even more amazing in the hands of someone who can.

I've written some kickin' songs which I'll be recording over winter break. I'll post downloads soon. This keytar is amazing.

The reason I'm posting this message is because I left my shs-10 home. It's finals week at school. I'm having serious withdrawels. I need my keytar.

Rating: 5 out of 5 posted Saturday-Dec-13-2003 at 21:15
mister_beat from Germany writes:
I use a silver coloured SHS 10.

This one was my first keyboard, it still works and never let me down! Totally undestroyable!

It sounds not very good because of the 2OP-FM-sythesis it uses, but who cares? I use this thing to send the styles via Midi to external instruments (each track has its own transmit channel, as shown on the panel) and for that it's quite usefull.

Unfortunately the SHS 10 and 200 were created as some kind of Masterkeyboard, so that yamaha "forgot" to give these instruments a Midi Input. If you want to use these kind of "bad sounds" via Midi you should look out for the PSS 480/580 or the PSS 680/780.

Rating: 3 out of 5 posted Tuesday-Nov-04-2003 at 07:11
Solar a part-time user from CDN writes:
Hey just picked up a SHS 10 and a SHS 200 this month at pawn shops. The SHS 10 is a great little midi controller with 00-44 bad mono sounds and 32 keys. The SHS 200 is stereo with 49 keys and 00-66 sounds you might use. They both have the same pitch bend, vibrato, potamento, sustain contolls. The 200 adds stereo symphnic effect I call chorus. The 200 has two speakers on the front. The patches are often the same but sound much better (line out)on the 200. The Vibrato button is the same as a modulation wheel turned all the way, on or off. I like the way the start/stop works my E-MU mp7 . They both can send out to 16 midi channels. Cheap fun controller for 80's retro night or for portable mini keys.

Rating: 5 out of 5 posted Wednesday-Sep-10-2003 at 17:36
jojo fontaine a professional user from madagascar writes:
Yep and I bought amazing spiderman issue #1 for 12 cents in 1962. I am definitely satisfied with the shs-10 now. It has proved itself onstage. It also does funny things when you raise the pitch as high as it goes on the harpsichord and use the vibrato.

Rating: 5 out of 5 posted Monday-Aug-25-2003 at 17:21
writes:
$60??i bought one at 1988 at only $25.crappy sound but its a okay mini controller if u can't afford the newer microKontrol.

Rating: 1 out of 5 posted Thursday-Aug-07-2003 at 12:27
Jojo Fontaine a professional user from madagascar writes:
This instrument is a lot of fun. I talked the guy at the pawn shop down from 90 to 60. Im not yet sure If I am dissappointed or not, but I am having a good time with this thing. The baroque beat is hillarious when you crank up the tempo. Its true that you can't really take yourself seriously playing one of these things on stage, but who cares. I suppose the midi makes it worthwhile.

Rating: 3 out of 5 posted Wednesday-Aug-06-2003 at 15:41
Jim a hobbyist user from USA writes:
I borrowed one of these from a friend just to try it out. The demo song on mine is "Last Christmas" by Wham!. This thing is awesome for midi input to my computer, I don't know how good it would be for a real performance though.

posted Wednesday-May-28-2003 at 17:52
Rev. Cole a hobbyist user from USA writes:
Can someone tell me the name of the song in the demo its been like haunting me since I was like 5 years old.

Rating: 5 out of 5 posted Monday-Feb-10-2003 at 18:10
John Ryan a part-time user from Midwest (USA) writes:
I bought this in the late 80's to piss off our lead guitarist who was a notorious hotdog! I had my CZ 1000, FB-01, and DX-7 racked. I bought this thing new at a liquidator for $20! I had a custom 40ft MIDI cable made. I used to sing "What I Like About You" by the Romantics. It of course, as what sounds like a Harp solo in the middle which was mine. I grew tired of being chained behind my keys, and having our guitarist playing on the dance floor hustling the good lookin' babes. I had hidden my SHS-10 and when the solo came round, I hopped off the stage and he suddenly found me standing next to him on the dance floor. He about crapped his pants!! It was worth every cent for that look! It sounded fine as I had it MIDI'd into my regular boards. I still have it. I can't believe these things are going for $100! It is like when I nearly tossed out my Roland TR-808 a year ago in the garbage can. I looked on eBay and about shit! I took that in and had it all gone through! Anyway, I have found memoroies of my SHS-10. I eventually met my wife while out on the floor playing a solo! She was dancing with some geek. She thought I was obnoxious. She married me anyway LOL!

Rating: 5 out of 5 posted Monday-Feb-03-2003 at 17:59
adam a hobbyist user from USA writes:
Never mind the sounds, use it as a MIDI controller. If it didn't have MIDI it WOULD be a toddler toy, like those colorful little keyboards with huge buttons and kid song demos.

Rating: 4 out of 5 posted Friday-Oct-04-2002 at 13:57
Mae B a hobbyist user from usa writes:
just got the SHS 10 and need a manual. Does anyone know where to download one from? Could not find one on Yamaha.com. Thanks

posted Sunday-Sep-08-2002 at 18:24
Skar a professional user from maryland usa writes:
This is the stupidest item I have ever purchased! Give me a break! I was looking for a KEYTAR on ebay, not a stinking toy, made for my 3 year old nephew. Yeah it's cool... if you think loking lke a total dousche on stage is cool. The sounds are horrible, the color scheme sucks, am the only person who might be able to use it sucessfully without hitting like 5 keys with one finger would be a toddler. Yeah this thing is a great buy... for a mentally chalenged midget!!!! I'll go spend the money on something worh it like a roland axis or a casio az. You can keep you stupid, useless, crappy, toddler styled shs.

P.S. NOOOOOOOOO chick would ever dig a tool playing an shs... If you think this keytar rules, you should check yourself into the mental hospital.

Rating: 1 out of 5 posted Friday-May-17-2002 at 14:43
Cedric C. Carter a hobbyist user from Northampton, Massachusetts USA writes:
I have one of these. I like it especially running my Oberhiem Matrix 1000 tone module through it.

However, I'm having problems getting any sounds out of it. What could be wrong? Is it worht the money to spend to get it repaired?

I am also looking for a copy of the owners manual so if any of you are willing to photocopy and send it to me, I would appreciate it.

Please e-mail me at [email protected] OR [email protected] with your details and shipping requirements.

I used to have a KX-5 keytar but I sold it a few years ago. I like the expression controls on the handle and the fact that such a cheap keyboard was equiped with MIDI.

The most useful voices I've been able to do anything with are: 00-Synth, 10-Elec. Piano, 12-Vibraphone, 24-Woood bass, 32-Horn, and 40-Flute. Having pitch bend, vibrato, Portamento, and Sustain readily available at the left hand is great! Transposing and tuning buttons are useful for bass sounds.

Not a bad deal overall... as has been said already... it looks cool. But use it with a tone module for the best results

Rating: 4 out of 5 posted Saturday-May-11-2002 at 19:07
UralTEK a hobbyist user from Finland writes:
If you like Da Cheese, this is it! =)

Sounds horrible, with only 2-OP FM sounds I guess. Sounds suck, rhythms suck even more. BUT.

I have had many REAL synths and other gear but somehow I've spent countless hours entertaining myself (and my most pervert friends), playing ultra-cheesy MIDI-country and making awful bends with "tuba" sound. Amazing.

And not to forget the fact other people are saying too: it is an extremely cheap and portable MIDI controller (paid about 20 euros). Adjustable pitch-bend (-12 - 12 semitones) and adjustable portamento (10 steps) combined with the cheesy guitar-like looks make this a fun toy.

Don't handle it too roughly though - "touch me and I'll disintegrate" is written all over it. Although the keyboard on mine has survived many aggressive sessions. =)

Rating: 4 out of 5 posted Friday-Apr-19-2002 at 11:35
Rod Johnson a hobbyist user from USA writes:
Bro as soon as I picked up the SHS-10 I knew we were ment to be together. I just started whailing on the keys and 100% pure music came out. The portamento and the pitch bend range totally jam. NOthing beats the beats the keytar produces by itself. Usually I just listen to them without accompanyment. Radical.

Rating: 5 out of 5 posted Thursday-Mar-07-2002 at 09:23
Paul Smith a hobbyist user from near Cambridge, UK writes:
Spent a lot of time looking for an shs 10, but ended up with an shs 200 (stereo and midi). Have been playing a piano accordion for years and it linked. Anyone tried both 10 and 200 and can give me a comparison since I never tried a 10 - just wanted one. Also, anyone have any idea where I can get an shs 200 manual or reviews of the shs 200 on the net? I'd be really glad to hear!

posted Wednesday-Mar-06-2002 at 07:13
Ian Morrison a part-time user from London, England writes:
£8 from Portobello market; awesome. Plugging it into my lexicon wields INS4NE results... Myself and a friend started jamming straight away - taking turns on guitar and keyboard. We feed them both into the lexicon, set the dials to 11, and rocked the house down... when the guitar's distortion overcooks, the keyboard squeels like it's being raped in a back ally.. it is SUPURB. as an on stage midi controller, it never fails to seduce chicks. Finally, i can get the "cock extension" effect with a keyboard that guitarists have enjoyed for years.

If you see one buy it. If you see one and you don't want it, buy it for me; i'd love to make a double necked "cheap-trick" style uber keyboard.

The auto rhythms are great; flange the whole lot, and play really loud - it sounds evil, menacing, satirical and dark dark dark. the bass sounds are, generally, great. the sounds on their own sounds shit, but then, who ever "had it" to a naked 303? not me, oh surely no. anyone into post-modern synthpop must stroke themselves at least once at the thought of thrusting one of these into the audience.

i've got the original gweeds & reflex jam sessions - 4 mp3's - if anybody wants to check them out. they're dirty, raw, full of bum notes, but it sounds like the sky is falling down...

Rating: 5 out of 5 posted Saturday-Dec-15-2001 at 11:09
darren stephens a hobbyist user from uk writes:
got mine (silver "last christmas" version for under £5 in a charity shop!!comfortable and light easy to use..disabled all the auto rhythms,etc and resprayed it..does anyone know how to get it to run with reason ??I can't get it to control anything!!

Rating: 5 out of 5 posted Wednesday-Sep-05-2001 at 09:47
ovv a hobbyist user from finland writes:
could you post the link to the manual, I really would like to see it. :)

Rating: 4 out of 5 posted Sunday-May-06-2001 at 17:02
Adam a hobbyist user from USA writes:
Yes the portamento, mod, and sustain buttons do transmit over MIDI. I found the manual yesterday online.

Rating: 5 out of 5 posted Wednesday-Feb-28-2001 at 11:57
Lee Mulvogue a hobbyist user from Australia writes:
Though it looks like a toy, this thing's got MIDI with a pitchbend wheel - more than enough for most triggering stuff. About the cheapest MIDI keyboard you'll ever find!! ('cause most clueless pawn shops etc think it's a toy...) Sounds are pretty cheesy, but it's got portamento, which is a bonus nowadays! Crank it through some distortion pedals and you're set!

Personally, I recently ripped off the mini-keys and soldered in a set of full-size keys - the matrix appears to be a fairly standard type, grab an old organ or something and start hybridising... Of course, you then need to make a new body, but hey...

Rating: 3 out of 5 posted Monday-Feb-26-2001 at 22:11
Adam a hobbyist user from USA writes:
I just bought this thing at a thrift store for four bucks; it was in the toy section. It's always nice to see people who don't know shit about keyboards, they assume it's a toy because of it's shape and red color. That means I get it cheaper!!! Typical PSS-like sound engine, but still makes a cool little MIDI controller. Does the portamento, vibrato, and sustain buttons transmit over or not? I will try it myself, along with the pitch bend range (PSR 510 like) thing. I'll give it a five out of five for what it is and the price I paid.

Rating: 5 out of 5 posted Friday-Feb-23-2001 at 12:35
Smokie a hobbyist user from Canadian Wet Coast writes:
I picked up a Yammy SHS-10 at a garage sale a couple of weeks ago. It cost me $2. Everuthing works OK, although the battery door is missing. I have it on my desktop, and use it as a MIDI controller, although it's fun to just switch it on and play, and it takes a lot less room than our Casio CTK-601. Sounds cool thru my guitar amp too, and is more playable on a strap than I thought it would be. First thing I did after buying it, however, was I went to the Yamaha XG site, try this link, http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/english/menu_f.html and (after upgrading to Adobe Acrobat reader v. 4.0, with japanese fonts), downloaded the manual in PDF format. It is in four languages, and helps with some of the less obvious features like MIDI channle re-assign. BTW, my SHS-10 is red. Don't recognize the demo tune it plays, but I think De knows it...

posted Thursday-Oct-26-2000 at 11:17
Jim Pinel a part-time user from USA writes:
I bought it because my kx5 weighs a ton. Its got great MIDI specs but its keys are too small and not responsive enough for anything but whole notes. To bad Yamaha wasn't smart enough to put its MIDI specs and LED display in the KX5.

Rating: 2 out of 5 posted Thursday-Jun-15-2000 at 12:19
a professional user from The USS Sulaco writes:
Ingo, the drums are FM like a lot of Portasounds of the era, plug it into a real synth and use it as a remote, better than a KX5 in some respects and a laugh live. cracking 2-quidsworth.

Rating: 3 out of 5 posted Saturday-Jul-31-1999 at 03:55
Ingo Hildesheim a hobbyist user from UK writes:
Wow, I found my SHS 10 this morning on a car boot sale in Cambridge. First I didn´t know what it was. But it is silverish and it just looked coooool! When I saw that it even has MIDI, I could not resist, i had to buy it! After some struggling with the lady who sold it, I got it got it for 2 quids!!!!

And it works! What an ancient sound! It remains me of may younger days!

Somebody who can send me a manual? When was it Build? Mine doesn´t have a drum-section!?

I love it and we will certainly never again separate!

Ingo

Rating: 3 out of 5 posted Friday-Jul-30-1999 at 10:39
Jorge Cortes a part-timer user from Arizona writes:
I have been using it as a controller, but I open it, and disabled the rythm controls, because it was very easy to get those annoying patterns by accident. Very confortable to wear onstage, and once you get the hang of it the keys feel better. The portamento, sustain and vibrato(modulation) buttons are easy to control as is the pitch wheel and, yes almost everything transmits MIDI, cheap alternative( paid 29 dlls) to the Roland AX, or Yamaha KX5.

Rating: 5 out of 5 posted Tuesday-Jun-08-1999 at 17:10
AdamT writes:
Just another point.. I checked the Demo tune.. Mine plays George Michael`s "Last Christmas".. I almost Puked. model SHS10S S must stand for "Shit demo tune"

posted Sunday-Mar-14-1999 at 07:11
AdamT a part-timer user from The land of the Chewing gum Seal writes:
Most of you seem to have Red SHS10`s Mine`s silver grey, never seen another (although I bet there`s about as much chance of it being collectable a Purple Jen SX1000.. (;-). beware not to trigger the Auto accompaniment when playing live over MIDI..

Rating: 3 out of 5 posted Friday-Mar-12-1999 at 15:25
Sjoerd van der Kooij a professional user from Holland writes:
It's a nice MIDI controller, the red colour is ugly, so I painted it metallic bleu, now he is cool for live use.

Don't buy him for the sounds, they suck, I've connected him to my Korg X5DR module, and that's kinday kinkey to see a man playing on a little keyboard the sound of an enourmous cathedral... :))

Rating: 3 out of 5 posted Friday-Mar-12-1999 at 10:27
AdamT a part-timer user from UK writes:
Sorry , i meant 37 keys not 27!!. BTW the mod button does send MIDI (to the kenton at least)

posted Sunday-Nov-15-1998 at 16:49
AdamT from UK writes:
Best described as a KX5 for the car-boot sale brigade.. Stuff it with HP7 batteries and plug it into a Minimoog via a kenton box and use it live, WOW how can a child`s toy sound that great is the usual comment. I sold my KX5 and actually kept this as it is such an absurd thing to take on stage, make sure you keep the volume down and don`t press the Demo button by accident an adjacent mic may pick up the horrible sound the thing really makes. The keys are the same length as on the KX5 but half the width, no aftertouch and only 27 keys as opposed to 44 but for £12 who cares, the pitch bend wheel is easier to use than the KX ribbon and the thing has a Digital readout for patches rather than the KX`s latching switches (if you`re using a programmable synth that is). shame they didn`t add a breath control socket (;-)..

Rating: 3 out of 5 posted Sunday-Nov-15-1998 at 16:45
sinaddr from Us writes:
yeah, i got one of these for free from a friend...cheesey little machine, I wouldn't pay more than $50 for it, even if used just as a controller for other stuff. The mini keys get annoying, but the onboard effects are kinda nice. Only real use for it (other than as a controller, just to look silly), at least for me, is to put it through an effects processor and distort the shit out of it (i put it through a reverb on my digitech studio quad v2 and then use a guitar distortion pedal), then it sounds pretty damn sweet. Even the onboard drum loops (cheesey as BALLS - although I had used them just for that reason) can sound phat as hell when put through effects. My view? Worth the money I paid for it :P seriously, though, if you can get it cheap, grab it, especially if yer into just plain weird shit,

Rating: 3 out of 5 posted Saturday-Nov-14-1998 at 00:26
Darío a hobbyist user from Argentina writes:
I won it on a TV Show like ten years ago. Its a good keyboard. I need if someone can send me something like a manual because I don't understand all the functions. I wouldn't never record anything with that button.

Thanx a lot !!

Rating: 4 out of 5 posted Monday-Aug-24-1998 at 18:42
Henric Segerlund a part time user from Sweden writes:
Here in Sweden I bought mine just because it looked so cool. And here it is made in red colour. To use it as a MIDI controller for other synthesizers it's perfect. It looks kinda funny jumping around with that little thing making deep funky bass sounds!

Rating: 0 out of 5 posted Thursday-Aug-06-1998 at 00:22
Judah Ebenezer a hobbyist user from England writes:
Good piece of gear, shame it isn't touch responsive though. All accompaniment data is transmitted through midi, but the drum kit layout is non-standard so it won't play the right instruments when used with a drum-machine. The amount of pitch bend can be changed by tweaking the wheel and using the + and - buttons a useful feature that you'd never work out unless you had a manual!

Rating: 5 out of 5 posted Thursday-Aug-06-1998 at 00:22
Steve Maietta a hobbyist user from USA writes:
This thing is pretty cool. Got mine for 60 bucks and I can say that it was well worth it. It has so many preset rhythms and sounds that you can have lots o fun. and it has MIDI too!! The demo song is a super cool cheesy malibu 80's Miami vice type thing... worth the 60 in my point of view.. If you can get one for cheap go for it!! fun!! make some music! it can play the rhythms, and put a bassline over it for those of you without a bass player or 303. It can put some chords over that. It can do it all. I love mine. nuff said buy one.

Rating: 5 out of 5 posted Thursday-Aug-06-1998 at 00:22
Tony a /a>, a hobbyist user from US writes:
Actually, it has no modulation wheel, just a vibrato on/off switch button that doesn't seem to transmit any data. The sustain button is cool though.

Rating: 3 out of 5 posted Thursday-Aug-06-1998 at 00:22
Brian Mulvey a part time user from U S of A writes:
I found this thing one time in the garbage and hooked up a power supply to the battery clips. I was so surprised when it started playing "Headhunters" by Herbie Hancock!!! Anyway, half the keys were broken off and the MIDI didn't work, so back out to the garbage it went.

Rating: 3 out of 5 posted Thursday-Aug-06-1998 at 00:22
Paul Monroe a hobbyist user from United States writes:
Great Keyboard. I bought it for because it has really good features and great looks for a low price. Interesting thing is mine is red, and so are all the others I've seen. The best part is watching peoples' reaction when seeing it for the first time. Glad I bought it and will never part with it. The compact size is great for traveling.

Rating: 5 out of 5 posted Thursday-Aug-06-1998 at 00:22
Sean Frazer a part-timer user from Australia writes:
I bought this keyboard mainly for use at live gigs as a midi controller, It does a great job for that but, I don't recomend it for the inbuilt sounds. It also looks great on stage. Well worth the 90 Bucks i spent on it and ill for ever (or untill it dies then ill pull it apart and use it for other stuff)

Rating: 4 out of 5 posted Monday-Aug-03-1998 at 04:20

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