WNAMM09: Native Instruments New Groove Box

NI announce the Maschine      16/01/09

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Being Native Instruments this is of course much more than just another groove box. Josh Fielstra tells all about NI's new integrated controller, the Maschine.

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    C.    Said...

    "This is a sample based instrument, huh, for the time being..."

    So we might see some synth engines built-in later on? NI, please make this the ultimate MachineDrum alternative (for half the price) :)

    16-Jan-09 07:09 AM


    sonik303    Said...

    still, you'll have to lug your computer with it, so it won't beat MD in mobility race..

    16-Jan-09 09:11 AM


    paul    Said...

    this is something like the koirg legacy with ms20 controller, but much mire sophisticated... this is the future of instruments, calculating on the computer, controlling on hardware!!! more like this will probably come

    16-Jan-09 10:08 AM


    Marc JX8P    Said...

    Well, I was quite disappointed from having expected a Kore 3 this time, but I must say that this thing really looks fantastic even to a none-groovebox oriented musician like me (and I'd really love to see some of that hardware in a Kore 3 controller when they get round to that). Very cool!

    16-Jan-09 11:18 AM


    loneraver    Said...

    I love NI's Software, I really wasn't looking for more hardware from them. I haven't used the Kore hardware since I bought it 2 years ago.

    NI, Don't forget what you are good at...Making unique great sounding synths.

    16-Jan-09 12:15 PM


    s r dhain    Said...

    Thank god you asked a bit about cpu power etc, nick, as that was in my mind all through the review until that moment arrived.

    My own thoughts (humble or otherwise)

    1) This is an incredible piece of kit and going for a great price. The irony, however, is that the hardware device controller has a footprint that's as big as an akai mpc, but of course still needs a pc or mac to power it..

    2) ...which brings me onto the next part, which is, WHO will use this? If it's aimed at the dance producer/IDM crew, then surely theyre already using battery et al? Also, as someone above as said , combined with a laptop, its still a chunky rig to use live or in the studio. As a plug in, I hope it really does deliver by the pound, as it were, cause I have a different slant on that altogether, but then maybe my use of technology and software brings up another issue, which is that the software vendors are driving the technology and upgrade path for hardware forward. But thats for another time.

    A great product, good price, but as innovative as it is, the hardware brigade for this "genre" of product, still takes pole position imho.

    16-Jan-09 06:28 PM


    hardware is king.    Said...

    i poop on this "maschine".

    17-Jan-09 11:04 AM


    Jonathan S    Said...

    who will use this?

    there are probably more musicians in every kind of genre and production style looking for something like this than we can even fathom! but off the top of my head, one musician type that would be interested in this is your traditionally hardware based beat-maker who wants to mix down inside a computer-based DAW. I mean come on, think of how easy it is to use a GUI instead of cables (cables between hardware instruments and and audio interface) to route individual sounds to tracks in a DAW. this is going to save musicians of this sort a lot of headache! Cheers NI!

    17-Jan-09 11:40 AM


    Carl    Said...

    N.I. What were you thinkin with this product? was expecting some unique product but personally its a let down. looks already outdated.. just another sample based mpc look alike controller. i love N.I but its time to move forward guys..not backwards. whoever came up with this should be fired. its only good for wannabe producers and thats about it.

    17-Jan-09 01:18 PM


    ²    Said...

    want!

    17-Jan-09 09:57 PM


    citrusonic    Said...

    Looks like an Roland SP808 - I still have mine, its a 808EX. The real question is does the software have a bad ass Sequencer Standalone; imagine, unlimited tracks, mad long ass mixes, stories, pirates, explosions and such to then be laid - sequenced in MASCHINIE standalone able to then be bounced to the drive. I hope you can do a whole show (circus effects magic zoo) on it. If i can sell PT because of this I will buy it...

    PT = Pro Tools

    18-Jan-09 08:33 PM


    citrusonic podcast    Said...

    Looks like an Roland SP808 - I still have mine, its a 808EX. The real question is does the software have a bad ass Sequencer Standalone; imagine, unlimited tracks, mad long ass mixes, stories, pirates, explosions and such to then be laid - sequenced in MASCHINIE standalone able to then be bounced to the drive. I hope you can do a whole show (circus effects magic zoo) on it. If i can sell PT because of this I will buy it...

    PT = Pro Tools

    18-Jan-09 08:34 PM


    citrusonic podcast    Said...

    Looks like an Roland SP808 - I still have mine, its a 808EX. The real question is does the software have a bad ass Sequencer Standalone; imagine, unlimited tracks, mad long ass mixes, stories, pirates, explosions and such to then be laid - sequenced in MASCHINIE standalone able to then be bounced to the drive. I hope you can do a whole show (circus effects magic zoo) on it. If i can sell PT because of this I will buy it...

    PT = Pro Tools

    18-Jan-09 08:34 PM


    cvuapz    Said...

    Johnathan S, perhaps i should have elaborated further. There's a plethora of hardware controllers with an mpc style layout available in some shape or form already, which CAN be used with everything. Now although NI say it can be used as a midi controller, cubase , for instance, can be a bit twitchy with various new gizmos, in terms of integration and so forth.

    I still say, if you want an MPC, get or try an MPC. there are loads available at dealers with good deals and discounts. There are also loads available on ebay etc too, second hand. I used an mpc 1000 live and in the studio and had all sorts of midi daisy chained to it..it never crashed or spluttered once.

    The maschine is a great product, and the price isnt too deadly, but the mpc style working is best done by the original, even today. The machine drum comes close, and even the korg electribes are handy too.

    you pays yer money...

    19-Jan-09 11:34 AM


    snarf    Said...

    Um as far as the software goes this is just a shameless Guru ripoff, just like MOTU's new BPM software. GURU came out about 4 years ago and I use it on everything, it would be nice if NI could come up with original groove oriented software....pair GURU with a padkontol or akai and you still save several hundred dollars.

    19-Jan-09 02:20 PM


    loneraver    Said...

    Here is what I was hoping for NAMM from NI.

    1) Upgrade at least one of the stock products.

    2) A new synth.

    3) New version of Komplete.

    19-Jan-09 10:11 PM


    pelourus    Said...

    I luv how he says "you can just browse through! your 14 thousand different samples"...

    Geez hurry up and make the LINNDRUM II now that will be a Machine!..

    21-Jan-09 03:34 PM


    denoiser    Said...

    "Sample based instrument" - LOL This is just a fancy name for simple semaphore type controller.

    "All work is done on your daw's CPU" - wierd for "instrument" :)

    LAME

    28-Jan-09 11:24 AM


    Bad Mind    Said...

    this thing is going to kick so much ass... i love how much info and editing etc can be done right from the controller... this is a true software mpc hardware hybrid, right down to the way note repeat works and the erase button lmao! fuckin a im gonna be all over this one

    02-Feb-09 05:46 PM


    flux302    Said...

    well I'm a long time mpc user who hates having to 8 track out my sequences into my daw so I BOUGHT MASCHINE last week. I can't believe all the negative comments on here. (do we really need another kore?) so far this thing has almost replaced my mpc it's quantize style is better than the mpc so is it's swing. however there are still some 1.0 issues. 1 it doesn't have real timestretching yet! and 2 it doesn't have proper truncating with manually placeable slice markers (like recycle) as for portability it's much more portable than an mpc 1000 (even with my macbook in tow.) and th pads feel every bit as nice as my mpc pads. the sequencer is pretty damn dope and the fx section is just amazing. for live shows this thing is gonna rock. it just needs some updates to get it up to par sample editing wise and then my mpc can finally get the rest it deserves lol. oh btw EVERY HIP HOP PRODUCER I HAVE SHOW IT TO WANTS ONE to answer the "who will buy this" question. it's just much easier to work inside your daw with maschine than do everything on the mpc (and still have it's sequencer limitations) then slave it to logic (as logic can't slave to the mpc properly!)

    07-Jul-09 02:03 PM


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