Bitwig - Up Close and Personal

We chat to one of the development team      20/07/12

 



The expectation surrounding the new Bitwig sequencer/DAW is is building almost as fast as the software itself is being built.  Comparisons with Ableton’s Live are also being made due to the inclusion of clip launch features, but after seeing it in the flesh myself yesterday when we were visited by Dominik from Bitwig, it's clear that there’s so much more to it.

The first and obvious remark is the relationship to Ableton Live - partly due to the inclusion of the clip launcher and other interface similarities. The simple answer is that until Live came along, there was a standard DAW layout that all DAWs adhered to, with a few deviations. And then Ableton Live changed that. The Bitwig guys love Live as much as they love other working methods so it seems only rational therefore that elements from them would be included.

 

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Dr. Feelgood    Said...

Wow - it's basically a not-broken Ableton Live. I like it!

20-Jul-12 11:12 AM


nativeVS    Said...

Wasn't C-Lsb's creator/notator based on patterns and so like a basis for live?

20-Jul-12 04:28 PM


bassbeats    Said...

Looks great, but how does it SOUND? Ableton sound terrible and is one reason I stay way from it? Does it sound at least as good as Logic (hopefully as good as Pro Tools)? If it does, you can have my money right now!

21-Jul-12 08:02 PM


Sam Mallery    Said...

Ableton Live sounds amazing.

22-Jul-12 11:55 AM


loneraver    Said...

Ableton Live is a sequencer! It only sounds as good as your synths, you samples, and your talent.

22-Jul-12 03:07 PM


Producer    Said...

exactly. ableton live. lets see what bitwig brings to the table.

05-Aug-12 10:39 PM


NAME    Said...

I think people are saying that ableton's native effects are terrible. If you use third party stuff and don't auto warp everything then you don't get the "ableton" crap sound that so many people are stuck with

06-Aug-12 09:41 PM


Eu    Said...

bassbeats dont be ignorant! all DAWs sound the same! An audio signal is an audio signal and it sounds the same in every DAW... if you think i'm wrong test it!

If you sound design a bassline in your favorite vst it will sound exactly the same whether you play it Cubase, Logic, Ableton, Protools, etc... if you think i'm wrong you better start studing!

21-Aug-12 01:28 PM


lu    Said...

Well, dont be ignorant yourself... An audio engine is always different from another audio engine. Try Mixing 30 tracks in ableton live, then try to mix the same 30 tracks in Reaper... and you'll hear big differences (stereo width, dynamic, phase...)

06-Sep-12 08:10 PM


Tim    Said...

"Looks great, but how does it SOUND? ...."

Uhhh I can't read such a shit. I'M working with many different DAWs and they Sound the same! The only thing is that you handle the Audio on different ways so you get different results based on the DAWs natural workflow. But if you compare the Audio from different DAWs with the same settings you'll get the same results - here is an example: http://tarekith.com/sound-quality-live-versus-logic/

09-Sep-12 03:11 PM


Tim    Said...

"Looks great, but how does it SOUND? ...."

Uhhh I can't read such a shit. I'M working with many different DAWs and they Sound the same! The only thing is that you handle the Audio on different ways so you get different results based on the DAWs natural workflow. But if you compare the Audio from different DAWs with the same settings you'll get the same results - here is an example: http://tarekith.com/sound-quality-live-versus-logic/

09-Sep-12 03:12 PM


StreetWizard    Said...

Yeah, these guys are mostly correct. Pretty much all DAW's use the same audio technology. 16/24 bit PCM (depending on settings) with 32 bit floating point operations. The only real difference a DAW can make is the algorithm they use for dither. I really doubt you could ever really hear a discernible difference in that though.

17-Oct-12 10:31 AM


StreetWizard    Said...

Yeah, these guys are mostly correct. Pretty much all DAW's use the same audio technology. 16/24 bit PCM (depending on settings) with 32 bit floating point operations. The only real difference a DAW can make is the algorithm they use for dither. I really doubt you could ever really hear a discernible difference in that though.

17-Oct-12 10:31 AM


Wiseman    Said...

I love Ableton Live but of course each DAW has its own "sound", this is a fact. Try this: listen to a bassdrum sample in your library, drag this sample in your live set. You'll hear what Live does to audio.. This is also what's great about it, it's its sound but you can create your own sound gear wise as well (converters etc) they will bypass your DAW audio engine. Peace

11-Nov-12 07:21 PM


Scott    Said...

The thing you people saying all DAWs sound the same are not getting is Ableton is different than ALL other DAWs. What makes Live sound like crap is its PDC. It introduces latency when using 3rd party plugs like halls/delays etc. This creates a smearing effect and when tracks add up it gets phasey and doesn't sound as crisp as other DAWs. The reason Live does this is because it puts Live performance above sounding good. So the PDC takes a back seat along with sound quality to Live not crashing in front of 5,000 people while doing a show. This information has been well documented on Ableton Live forums even by the developers themselves.

24-Dec-13 06:49 AM


Lu    Said...

Glad to hear I'm not the only one having difficulty changing my workflow from linear to clip based, I find it very hard to 'get' and then translate to my actions.

Also really pleased to hear that it's all about workflow for these guys. That puts them at the top of my list instantly.

25-Jan-14 03:58 AM


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